So, of course boutique guitar gear is better than regular guitar gear. It just goes without saying……right?
Ya, unfortunately, I fall into that category too many times. It should be about what sounds good, not about what has the coolest stigma. But you gotta admit, it’s really cool to have a pedalboard loaded with sweet, sweet pedals nobody’s ever heard of. You know, the ones you can tell people were handmade in communist Finland in 1941 with parts taken from a secret military facility by some hermit who lives on top of a mountain. Now that’s tone, you can say. hehe Some people will actually believe me……if, of course, the pedal looks cool enough. Looks equals tone, my friends. Looks equals tone. (Typed sarcasm is difficult.)

(These are some of the ZVex pedals. Not only boutique and handmade, but handpainted, too! I mean, look at those…..how can they not sound good?! Although, these pedals do sound really, really good.)
But in the end, I find that it generally falls (at least for me) somewhere in the neighborhood of around 75-80% of the boutique handmade stuff sounding the best. Vintage stuff can sound really good, too, but it breaks down a lot (at least in my experience). And every once in a while, you run across something mass-produced that just sounds incredible.
But what about strings? It’s a usually overlooked piece of the tone chain, but maybe the most important. I mean, that’s where the sound is actually coming from. Akin to the voice of a vocalist. And yet so many times we really don’t care about our strings.
So the other day I decided to care. And for those of you who know me, when I care, I really care. I have trouble doing things in balance. I’m either all in or all out. What? U2 uses delay? And suddenly I buy 8 delay pedals. Some of you are laughing…..those of you who know that’s actually a true story are not. In fact, you’re probably crying at the wall of delayed mush my tone used to be. Anyway, I went all the way and bought me some boutique, handmade, oven-cured in the dark of Alaska (not really) Snake Oil Brand Strings. A lot of people adore them……and going for that ‘real’ sound, I bought the vintage set, made of real nickel. And the moment I put them on my guitar, I knew something was wrong. The punch was just gone……and that was while playing the electric unplugged. You could tell even then. And sure enough, I played the set at church that night, and our sound tech (who does have a great ear, by the way) says, ‘Where’d your guitar tone go?’

(Maybe I should have tried the ‘rock’ sets instead of the vintage. But I did like the idea of pure nickel, just like they were made in the ’60’s. And seriously……look how cool that package looks! That even looks like tone.)
So I come home that night, put on a new set of Ernie Ball’s, and voila…….highs are back, punch is back, tone is back. (And to be fair, some people get great tone out of these strings……I guess just not me.)
That’s one of the very, very rare instances of stock beating handmade, at least in my experience. And then, inevitably, I’ll be at some show and hear the most killer tone ever, and then look at the guy’s board and he has some stock (!) Line 6 pedal (no!) and is getting better tone than me. And the journey continues.
I am curious, though, to know what strings everyone is using, though, on electric and acoustic, and if anyone uses boutique strings. And, of course, whose Line 6 pedals are getting better tone than me!
Splendid.
Karl.
okay, I’ll bite.
I go back and forth from Green Slinkys to D’Addario’s .10. I think I actually prefer the tone out of the D’addario’s. I use the them Acoustic-ly- but in Mediums and “phosphorus bronze” for a less bright, warmer sound- for rhythm, and lights for shows where we want acoustic leads. If I haven’t played the acoustic in awhile, i cheat and use Elixers. They save your fingers so much! (But everytime you buy elixers, a puppy dies. Remember that).
I think I just buy the slinkys due to loyalty. A guy recommended them, and so I’ve always used them.
As for tone and line 6…. I bought the verbzilla. On harmony central, everyone is blasting Line 6 for crappy pedals— except the verbzilla. Sure its digital, and at low amp levels, you can hear it, but at a nice show– wow, ambient effects galore!
I use the “hall” (like concert hall) setting, with a nice strong digital delay going into it (with at least 3 strong repeats). THe hall mellows it out into this breezy sound. I thought “well, this is a new, fun effect” until the sound guy came up to me after the service and said “that was great, what were you doing??” and the pastor requested we play that over the prayers/invitation for the next couple of Sundays.
For you U2 fans, the “octo” setting is great, as It makes the reverb an octave higher than what you played. Ad a delay into it, and its very “Edgey”.
If I’m not using delay, I use a thick reverb to fatten up my leads, and soften them a touch. In the deeper reverb settings (again, the hall) the reverb is almost like a soft echo. Its very touching, and almost synth/pad like if you use volume swells with it. Very good stuff.
And again, at performance levels it sounds good. Much better than the “reverb” on my amp.
I’ve noticed a lot on my board, isn’t my favorite stuff. Ex: i used to use a Keeley DS1. I love it! It rocks! Satriani and Vai use it and thats good enough for me! Then I used the Analogman, which is fun, but not quite as punchy as the Keeley. Every guitar player in church wanted to know what I did, and how they could get that sound. With my TS9 (808 mod) running into the DS1, I got a GREAT Santana sound, but only slightly harder, rocky. (as I live in Puerto Rico, thats a good thing). I’ve learned to trust what the people love, not what I KNOW is more “transparent” and toneful. Although I LOVE IT all those things!
thats my 2 cents.
48 more posts and you can get a big mac on dollar night.
oh, and meant to say– some people get great sounds even though they play without True Bypass and all these buffers. Basically we need to focus on our end product more than what we play through. A TB pedal may not affect our clean tone, but if the OD isnt as good as the one with a buffer, then its useless. I usually always have a bit of light OD on, just for some sustain. I want my end sound to sound good. Oh, and good amps can almost make anything sound good.
Well, i guess thats more like 4 cents.
Ditto for me and the Verbzilla. I bought it just for the “Octo” setting too. I use Martin’s standard electric strings and I love them. I change my electric strings once a week and I find I get the best tone from more frequently changed “Average” strings than do from older “boutique” strings.
Actual vintage gear is generally overrated and WAY too noisy. We also forget that 99.99% of congregants can’t tell the difference between digital and analog delay!
Great stuff, guys. If you don’t mind, I might quote some of it in my next blog. It’s rare to find guitarists who are caring more about the end product of ‘the music’ rather than the means of getting there. Very cool.
And yes, Line 6 is a huge joke point with me because I always railed on their stuff until one night some band I was with at the time opened for Kevin Max, and his guitarist had the best acoustic tone I’d ever heard. I talked to him after the show and he was using a Verbzilla. Wow, I felt stupid.
Not to mention the Echo Park can cop some great sounds. So I joke about it a lot, just to make fun of my constant ’boutique’ mindset.
And: “I find I get the best tone from more frequently changed “Average” strings than do from older “boutique” strings.” –Absolutely agree.
And: “But everytime you buy elixers, a puppy dies.” –Amazing.
I killed many a puppy until I got tired of breaking G strings once a week. I’m back to Martin SP’s and that’s only when I really care to change the strings… I’m going to end up looking like Willie Nelson soon.
Alex, seriously! The last time I used Elixirs I broke a string while I was putting it on the guitar…..brand new string just snapped. I just didn’t have the money to do that.
Heh, I think I’m the only guy who actually likes the strings. For fast slides and leads that won’t split your hand open, they are the best. For an electric player like me, when I’m asked to go acoustic, I have to actually practice to adapt to the acoustic again. Seems like my fingers are never strong enough for normal strings. (Play acoustic show maybe 4 times a year).
Ah, and complain to companies for that stuff– strings breaking when brand new etc… D’addario gave me coupons for 3 new sets of strings. Thats customer service
That coating comes from blubber of whales. So not only are you killing puppies, its whales too.
Ahhh… Elixers!!! I used to break the G-String all the time too. In fact, I’ve talked to a lot of people who have the same issue… very strange. I did like the way they felt and sounded, but like you said, I can’t afford to break strings every week… not to mention I’ve got too kids at home. I mean puppies are one thing, but I can’t take a chance of loosing one of them.. although the tone might be worth it???
D’addario Extra Lights… Haven’t broken a string yet. But I do change them every two or three weeks.
if you have frequent string breaks on the same string my suspicion might be more on the guitar than the strings…my friend and i used to have the same problem, after taking it to a luthier, problem fixed.
i’m using ernie ball power slinky, purple package. i try to change then once a month or so. there was a point where i got a whole bunch of different strings but technically speaking even when they’re the same gauge you’re supposed to get your guitar setup for them. regardless i didn’t notice huge differences at the time except in terms of feel so i just stick with the power slinkys now.
on acoustic i’m currently using martin acoustic SP marquis, medium gauge
i’d highly recommend trying out a Dr. Scientist Reverberator Pedal- next time you come to San Diego send me an email or something you can come over and try mine. i haven’t tried the verbzilla but my friend has one and says he really likes my reverberator. of course he’s also going axeFX now….gonna post about that anytime?
Just found this website a couple of days ago … nice! I don’t feel like such a gear nerd anymore.
I have a maple Taylor that sounded absolutely AWESOME with Thomastik-Infeld light gauge (12) strings. No other strings sounded remotely as good as those. Big problem, however – the G string would unwind on me. I’d be strumming away at a Paul Baloche tune when it would go dead on me and then work it’s way out from under the pin and dangle. It happened a bunch of times. After the third time, I wrote the company, and they sent me a free set of strings. Two days later, the G unwound again. they sent me another set. The following week, the new one unwound. The company was great, and offered me another set, but at that point, they were dangerous to me.
Since then (7 – 8 years ago), I’ve used Elixir light nanoweb. Yeah, they’re not the brightest strings, but I don’t bleed, and I don’t have to change them every week or so. Right now, I’m testing a new type of string for Elixir. I put them on Saturday night, played them at worship Sunday, and thought they were brighter than the regular elizirs. I’ll let you guys/gals know if anything changes.
Wow! What happened? I didn’t answer anybody on this one! My apologies!! So here we go…for some of you, almost a year late! hehe
Larry–I do agree, Elixirs feel great on your fingers…especially acoustic! I’m not a huge fan of the sound, but more than that, they always break! I was playing with a worship leader the other night who was all stoked because he made it all 4 weekend services without breaking the G-string. I was like, yikes. lol
Eric–absolutely!! Everyone I talk to breaks Elixirs. And good call on changing every 2-3 weeks. So important.
Stever–how did I miss this comment? Yikes! I’d love to try out the Reverberator! I’m currently giving the Tremolessence a tour on the board, and Dr. Scientist makes some great sounding pedals! I’ll let you know. Thanks, bro!
Tony C–lol Glad you’re enjoying the site! And I’ve never heard of those strings. Sounds like great customer service, but I hear ya; if the product’s not good, best customer service in the world won’t make me keep using them.
Any Elixir breaks yet?
Or are they going strong?
I’ve been using Elixirs for 7 – 8 years now, and I’ve had only about 2 or 3 string breaks. Not bad. I use Martin SPs on my son’s Seagull and on my Cort (beater guitar) and they’re fine, too!
I played D’addario 10’s on my Tele for about a decade and I recently (within the past year) switched DR 11’s. I doubt I’ll be going back to the 10’s or D’addario strings again. The DRs have great tone and longevity. I haven’t broken a string yet and I rehearse and play on Sunday morning every week.
Tony C–wow! That’s impressive for Elixirs! I’m currently using the Martin SP’s, and liking them.
Eddie–I really need to try DR’s. They’re on my list!
Great place, lots of pertinent information.
Now, on to the good stuff. I have used lime green Ernie Ball’s forever (13 years). Just recently, I either hit a bad production run or something but they kept breaking on both my electrics. Switched to the Gibson’s for the Les Paul and I love them. They sound great but are a little expensive. Tried the Electro Harmonix and they are just okay. For the Strat I tried the bullets; gross. They are just as terrible as when I bought my Strat. I have some Gretsch’s on deck next for the Strat, should be interesting. For acoustic it is Martin’s all the way. Elixir’s are okay but I have not used them in a while. I did get two free packs in the mail for some odd reason when they first came out. I liked them then.
Thanks, Jonathan. Great to have you here!
You know, the same thing happened to me a few years ago. Got a couple bad packs in a row of the Ernie Ball greens. But since then, I’ve been totally okay. Not a huge fan of the Elixirs of the EA’s, but I’m intrigued by your mention of the Gibsons. I might have to give them a try!
And I also love the Martins on acoustic. Right on, bro! Thanks for stopping in, and cheers!