I keep getting questions about what the big green pedals on my board are. And since they’re kind of an under-the-radar pedal, I figured I’d give them a review here.
The name of the pedal is the Timeline, by a company called Damage Control. Now, at first I didn’t give this pedal a second thought because, well, it’s called the Damage Control Timeline and it looks like this:

Now, I have grown to love the look of this pedal because the tone is such that right now, I could not ever picture myself parting with it. (By the way, ’could not ever picture myself parting with it’ are meaningless words from a guitarist.) But let’s be honest here; it kinda looks like something I could put my GI Joe’s in to drive around………er…… ‘could have put my GI Joe’s in’, when I was a kid, of course. Seriously, I haven’t played with GI Joe’s in years……..legos is a different story. But even the name sounds like a GI Joe vehicle. You know: “Cobra’s gaining on us, boys! Quick, into the Damage Control Timeline!” “But sir! Rampart’s down!” “Rampart? I’m going after him! Cover me! Aaaahhhhhh!” (Uh……sorry, I’m not really sure what’s happening right now……..okay, on with the review.)
So, when I looked at the pedal and heard it’s name, I thought it would probably be very gimicky. But, after trying out the Eventide Timefactor, Boss DD20, TC Nova, all the usual suspects, I finally decided to give the Timeline a try. Now for years I owned the T-rex Replica. Amazing sounding delay, but not a lot of features. I was always searching and trying out delays for one that could match the Replica in sound, but had more features. I had kind of given up hope that it existed (without springing for a $2000 TC2290), until I played the Timeline.
Now, there’s 3 things that set the Timeline apart:
1) Incredible delayed sound quality. Warm and modulated, to crisp and old rackmount, I have yet to hear a delay sound like this. There is depth and weight to the delayed signal. And a ‘grit’ control to take you from the really digitally sounds to the really dirty analog/tape sounds.
2) And this is what made the deal for me–it keeps your dry signal completely untouched. Your dry signal just goes straight through the pedal in bypass mode and effect mode. No processing, no converting, no touching! (No touching!)
3) It has (with external midi pedals) over 1,000 presets. I hook up a Rocktron Midi Mate to it, and it gives me access to 128 presets. I program my whole set list into this thing wherever I play at.
And it has all the usual things, too, that you look for in a multi-delay pedal such as this: tap tempo, delay spillover, modulation, 20 second looper with infinite overdrubs, true bypass (well, I’ve seen it advertised as true bypass, but it does have spillover…..so maybe it’s some crazy new technology, but I’m skeptical. In any event, the tone to my humble ears is completely the same whether the pedal is on or off).
So here’s the videos to give you an idea of what it sounds like and what it’s capable of:
Video 1:
Video 2:
Video 3:
Video 4 (The looper demo. I start by actually looping tracks over each other, then I end with just keeping the record button on and just playing. The pedal records everything I do and keeps it quantized with the original loops. You can also tell that I don’t tap off the first loop perfectly in time; but the pedal quantizes it to tempo quite nicely.)
Video 5 (A loop I recorded and then let play. And I kind of mess with the knobs to show what they do. Pretty simple to use as a looper…..and not bad for a delay pedal. Obviously, if you want to store loops and really record stuff, a dedicated looper is preferable. But this is really cool to have in a delay pedal. I actually use the looper live, as it quantizes very nicely if you have a drummer who has even fairly good time.)
So hopefully those videos give you an idea of the pedal. Like I said, I just completely adore this delay. And the question will be asked about why I have two, and the answer is that I have one for delay sounds, and one for modulation sounds like reverb and chorus, as well as looping. You can also run the delays into each other for some cool stuff. And one of the best features about this delay is that they are so under-the-market-radar right now that you can pick them up used for not much more than you’d spend on a DD20 or DL4. Although, you do have to get an external midi pedal to get the full potential out of this thing.
Now, I have to review the bad about this pedal as well. There’s not much, but they’re important enough to note:
1) It’s ugly. You learn to like the sound of it because it ends up just looking like tone, but it does have a very distinct ‘toy’ look to it.
2) It’s an enormous pedal. It really, really is.
3) It runs on 2 Amps. Yes, that’s right. Amps. Most pedals run at anywhere from 100-200 milliamps. So it definitely needs to run on it’s own factory adapter.
4) For some reason (and this is my only real complaint with the pedal), they decided to put this huge led in the middle of the pedal that they call ‘The Magic Eye’ instead of a beats per minute readout. I could definitely have done with a smaller led to keep track of the tempo, and a digital readout for beats per minute.
But, the pedal sounds so good, is so versatile, and the fact that it’s one of the few multi-delays out there that doesn’t touch your dry signal, it’s absolutely more than worth it for me. But for some people, it admittedly will not be.
So, there’s the review and some demo videos of my new favorite delay pedal. And I do resist the urge each day to dig out my GI Joe’s and take them for a spin in it.
Splendid.
Karl.
Great post! I’m pretty new to the gear scene. All I use for worship is a PODxt, but posts like this make me want to spend money!! Keep up the good work.
Gosh, you are the delay master. Here I am with my humble Boss DD3, and have to actually “BEND DOWN” and turn knobs for each song. I had thought of buying the DD7 (Hey, i think its awesome) since it has an analog/modulation setting and running them in duo tandem. I mean, Joe Satch has 2 dd3s, one for short, one for long and he is phenomenal, right? heh
I think we’re back on our discussion of tone vs what we need: I need a versatile, multiple delay with tap temp where I can just click to the next delay for each song, or the long delay for verses, short for chorus. I was thinking the DL4. I mean, DCrowder Band uses it and I loved them live… What do my audience want to hear? (and do they know that analog really is better?) heh..
Your thoughts/recommendations on my conundrum?
Brent–thanks, bro. All I can say is that, imho, the Timeline is definitely worth the bucks. I actually ran it direct a couple days ago for an acoustic service, and it sounded great and dead quiet. Granted, it won’t have the amp models of your pod, but it’s worth a tryout.
What styles do you play?
Les Paul–ha! Nothing wrong with bending down to turn knobs, but I find it hard to do in some passages of songs, especially if you find yourself on vocals as well as guitar. This pedal makes it a lot easier.
I would definitely recommend this pedal and an external midi pedal for a tap tempo, multi-delay, with presets. It’s obviously digital, but the analog settings are extremely convincing. Your audience will want to hear it, I think.
Used, you can get the Timeline for around the same ballpark price as the Nova, DD20, or DL4. But you have to factor in an extra $50-$100 for an external midi pedal.
If that’s not worth it, I would suggest the Boss DD20. I have owned this pedal in the past (mostly for keyboards) and it is a really, really good sounding pedal. And it has 4 presets plus a manual setting, all without an external pedal. The DL4 I like for lo-fi sounds and weird reverby effects (even Johnny Buckland of Coldplay uses one for these type sounds), but I think the DD20 is better in terms of sound quality and usability (the DL4 does not have a dotted eighth option). Also, I’ve heard horror stories of the DL4 breaking down a lot. The Nova gets good reviews, but it does convert your dry signal to digital and the back to analog…..I don’t know if you’re crazy enough like me to be horrified about that. Most pros couldn’t care less, so I guess I’m weird. Other options would be the Eventide Timefactor or the Empress Superdelay, but they are both more expensive and convert your dry signal. I’d go DD20, but that’s just my un-pro opinion. hehe
Good times!! Great last post by the way.
thanks thanks. You’re just saying that cuz I quoted you
and the cutsie “Splendid”
HA
in fact, with your delay obsession, i can’t believe you haven’t tried the Analogman analog delay. It is getting killer reviews!
very nice pedal, if not a little big. but it compensates a lot with the sound you can get out of this thing. very cool!
btw, is there an editor (pc/mac) for this thing or at least a midi sysex dump? just curious
Les Paul–ya, I used to be completely obsessed with finding the ‘absolute best sounding delay ever’ regardless of functionality. If the Analogman had been out a few years ago, I would have been all over it. But I find these days that I really have few uses for an analog, untimed, and relatively short delay sound; and when I do need that sound, it’s usually during recording, and I just set my Memory Lane to do it. For where I’m at right now, I need things to be able to be timed. hehe But there’s still a part of me that would love to get the Analogman and continue my search for the ultimate ‘delay sound’ without worrying about practicality. And then when I found that delay, I would just set it on my shelf and gaze at it from afar.
Rhoy–it is quite big! Unfortunate. And it’s been on my mind for awhile to see if there’s an editor and/or ‘dump’ for it, as it would be nice to have all the patches backed up on a computer in case the pedal ever goes out and I need a new one. But I just haven’t gotten around to it yet. I should try soon, though!
I know this has nothing to do with the Timeline but…
… hehe “No touching!”
You bastard. I just ordered an Eventide TimeFactor after going through a DL4, DD-20, and a Nova Delay! This thing looks like the business, except that you need that external midi pedal to access multiple settings without bending down to tweak knobs.
What midi pedal are you using and would you recommend (in the $50-$100 range)?
Is there a more compact midi pedal than what you’re using?
You are doing nothing to help my G.A.S. problem. I hope you’re prepared to start a support group or something…
Hey Blogsology. Ha! The support group is already created…..it’s called The Gear Page. Oh, wait, I’m not sure that site is going to help any.
As far as midi pedals go, I’m using the Rocktron Midi Mate for the Timeline in the videos. It’s about $100 used, and it’s really cool because it gives you access to 10 presets at a time because it has ten buttons. Then, hit the cycle button, and you’re up to presets 11-20. And you can name patches. Very functional…..but it is even bigger then the Timeline.
So for my other Timeline, I would love to use another Rocktron Midi Mate, but I just don’t have the board space. So I use the Tech 21 Midi Mouse. It’s about the size of a Boss pedal sideways. Really simple to use, but you do have to cycle through the patches one at a time, and you can’t name patches. But it’s compact, and functions great.
And who knows, you might be incredibly happy with the Timefactor. There are a great many guitarists way better than me who love that pedal and don’t hear any of the problems I heard in it. So fwiw, it is a great delay pedal!
Thanks, man. I’ll give the TimeFactor a go – I’ve heard it sounds great in a 2-amp rig, so hopefully it’ll be killer with my modded AC30 and DB13 JRT 9/15.
Oh yea – I LIVE on The Gear Page!
Wow, nice rig! I’ve heard nothing but the best about the 9/15’s. How’s your AC30 modded?
And yes, I also am on gearpage way more than I should be. hehe
Sounds great! Hmmmm. I just got my timefactor a few weeks ago so I can still return it for free. I really like the sound of this! But, space and BPM read out are a big deal too. I don’t want to have to sit with a metronom and tap tempos before a set
Mike–Absolutely. That’s exactly what I do right now….metronome and tap. I’ve been looking into getting a midi clock for it, but then that’s even more space on your board. This pedal is really a toss up between sound and board space. I just happen to be a freak, and will lift a 4 foot pedalboard so I can have the sounds I want. hehe
hey karl, i know that you have two timelines but i did not know that you had 2 Diamond ML’s! WOW! you must have been GAS’ing so much, that’s almost 1000 bucks just for those 2. i have 1 and i wish i can afford to buy the new version with the dotted-8ths. i’m so jealous!
Ha! Actually, I sold my second Memory Lane to pay for and make space for my second Timeline. (Those looper demo videos are a month or so old, before I sold that Memory Lane and bought the other Timeline.) No, I’d love to just keep closets of pedals……but alas, I must sell some to buy some. hehe
It looks like (from the website) you can access 8 presets without using the MIDI settings. Have you used that feature before, or did you get the MIDI board pretty much immediately?
Hey Ben,
Ya, without an external midi pedal, you can access 8 of the presets. But they are set up in 4 groups of 2. So you have to reach down and turn the dial to get the next two presets.
You also lose the ability to tap tempo when you’re on preset mode without a midi pedal. The tap switch becomes the second preset switch.
So, if you’re not really into tap, and you don’t mind reaching down to get 2 more presets (which some people don’t), then absolutely, you don’t need to have an external midi pedal. I might be able to get along without it, too, but when I heard I could get 128 presets with footswitches, all was lost. I was fully gone! hehe
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The biggest mods to my AC30 is the quad set of Sylvania NOS Baldwin EL84 tubes I have in there. Those and the high-end 12AX7 I’ve got in there totally transformed the tone.
I switched the speaker to a Weber Blue Dog Alnico, which is a bit creamier and not as harsh as the Celestion can be. It’s all preference but AC30’s are so bright already, have things smoothed off a bit is a good thing in my books.
I also upgraded the ‘verb tank and the choke (because it was broken – no real tone difference).
Are you still using the Timeline? or did you go back? or elsewhere? Curious… Can’t deal with the Line6 Echo Park… It’s sucking my boutique tone away. It’s the only non-true bypass pedal, and I tried to work with it, but can’t get the right tone with it… Also, can you recommend a midi board with it that isn’t too big… Perhaps a midi mouse?
Jeff–not sure why I didn’t respond to that comment back in September…lol! But I think we were e-mailing at the same time. But, bro, I love your amp setup!! Great tubes, speaker, and amp!
Skonger–yep, I’m still using the Timeline. Which is weird! I’ve been with for about a year now. That’s a long time for my and gear. hehe And ya, the Echo Park is good, but maybe not great.
I’ve used the Midi Mouse with the Timeline before, and it does work really well. Not as functional as the Midi Mate, but way more space saving, and it can be powered from the PP2.
Do you just use your midimate for your 3 DControl pedals? It would be amazing to have a pedal set up so that it sounds analog but with all the beauty that digital gives you with automation… Perhaps one day… I’m having a hard time with the size of the Timeline though… It’s gargantuam. It’ll be $530 as well with a midimouse. How about that Diamond thing you there? Do you like that compared to the Timeline? Seems like you still use it.
Have you tried the Vox Satriani Time Machine. Seems to sound pretty good with just the delay capability… I don’t know if I would use all the capability of the Timeline… I don’t know if having all those extra effects is a good thing for me. The reason I went to analog is the simplicity and easy tweakability. Digital was just too time consuming. I hated the going into this page and that page, etc. I do enough of that in my real job…
I want something that has great sound, simplicity, and enough features to do triplet, dotted eight, eight, and quarter delay with tap tempo. The other stuff is not that practical for worship IMHO.
Actually, I use one Midi Mate for each Timeline. The Glass Nexus is currently off my board until I can get another power conditioner. And actually, the Timeline is very user friendly and easy to use…however, for the needs you described, and for the sake of simplicity, the Boss DD20 might be exactly what you’re looking for. It’s not boutique, but it’s one of the most underrated pedals out right now, in my humble opinion.
The Diamond Memory Lane is great, but it’s more for ambient soundscape type stuff. It does that really, really well, but it’s a little too warm for some of the intricately timed delay. So I’ve got it on my board for when I need those flavors, and then the Timeline for everything else.
Hey Karl,
I’ve been researching day and night for the past two weeks to find “that” delay pedal. Awesome sounding, practical, simple to use live on stage but sound over takes the priority above all else for me. I started out with researching the Nova delay and moved on to Timefactor and Empress Super delay, now to the Timeline… They all seem great in their own rights and functionality, but tone sucking, I feel plagues all delays but the Timeline from what i’ve read. In your opinion what are some of the things that led you to Timeline over Timefactor and Super delay pedals? Lastly, could I really go wrong with any of the pedals mentioned above? What would you recomend?
Thanks!
Hey Jonathan,
Ya, great time to be a delay fanatic! There’s a lot to choose from right now. Honestly, the only thing that led me to the Timeline was that it was the only multi-setting delay I could find that leaves your dry signal completely untouched. All the others convert your dry signal to digital, and then back to analog. Most people say they can’t hear a difference, so maybe it’s just me; but I had the Timefactor for a couple weeks and really, really tried to like it because the delays were great. But in the end, it just effected my dry signal too much. Not lows or highs, but presence; the life was gone.
So I got the Timeline simply because it was the only one besides the DD20 that kept the dry signal unconverted. And the DD20 was out because I didn’t like what it did to my signal in bypass. And then when I played the Timeline, I was so struck with how beautiful the sounds were, and that I could get 128 presets just by connecting a midi pedal. It was seriously like, bonuses, because I was prepared to stick with an inferior pedal to get my dry signal right. But it ended up just sounding gorgeous! Right now, it’s been over a year since I got my first one, and the honeymoon period is still going, which is very rare for me.
So…ya, I like the Timeline! hehe
Karl, I pulled a trigger on more of a one trick pony… T-Rex Replica. I couldn’t justify pulling close to $500 for delay… Let alone any pedal for that matter.
I’m hoping this will be enough for me at this point and maybe when your honey moon is over you can let one of your bride (Timeline! I don’t know your wife… Nor do I even know if you are married!) to me, hehe.
Your blog has been a god-sent for me, so informative and learning so much about gear and tone.
Thank you!
Jonathan, I appreciate the kind words. And good pull on the Replica. Actually, that’s the delay I played for years. It sounds amazing. I searched for three years while I played that delay for something that had as good of a sound as it did, but also had multiple settings. I finally found it (at least in my humble opinion), in the Timeline. But if you don’t need a bunch of settings, I’d say you’d be hard-pressed to find a better sounding delay than the Replica.
Props!!
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Hey I just got the Rocktron midi mate for my timeline. But I can’t figure out how to store settings. Is there a simple way to save settings?
J
Or maybe do a quick demo of how to do the basics
J–it’s actually really, really simple. So simple that when I first did it, I thought I was doing it wrong. Just plug the Midi Mate into the Timeline’s midi in. Then, set the Timeline to a sound you like and want to save. Then, press the top center button on the Timeline (the settings knob). Now you have 30 seconds to save the settings. And all you do to save them, is press the number on the Midi Mate that you want them saved to. For instance, if you’re in the first bank, pressing the center knob on the Timeline, and then pressing 8 on the Midi Mate, writes the current settings to patch 8. Or, press the center knob on the Timeline, and then press ‘2nd’ on the Midi Mate to scroll through the banks. Go to bank 20-29, press 8, and now the settings are saved under patch 28.
Let me know if that helps!
Haha, wow that was simple! Man I feel like an idiot. I was going about it every other way possible. Thanks for the help. Now I need to go pull my guitar out of my amp haha.
J
Don’t worry, you’re not the first person I’ve explained this to that didn’t get it at first because it seemed ‘too simple.’ And one of those people was me.
I guess we hear ‘midi’ and ‘128 presets’ and think it must be way more complicated then it is. But Damage Control did a great job making it user friendly.
Hope you get some killer patches written, brother!
so where do i buy this?
You can order directly from Damage Control at damagecontrolusa.com , or you can try your luck at a better price by finding them used on e-bay of Gear Page. And actually, last I checked there was one for trade over at Harmony Central. Hope that helps!
I actually was going to buy the Timeline because I need to send my Replica back to the homeland of Denmark but I think Karl took the last two left! because these aren’t available any more, any where. HAHA
Wow! I didn’t know they ran out again! Check out their facebook site…there’s a link to it at the bottom of their main site. There’s a reply to a comment from July 3rd saying they are currently in the process of building more Timelines. And when I spoked to them a few months ago about the Nexus, they said there were some ‘cool things in store’…so maybe they’re running behind because they’re working on new stuff? I’m stoked for that! But hopefully they’ll get some more Timelines soon! I was lucky enough to get mine before they were very popular, but sometimes I do think of getting a third……just kidding……maybe…hehe
THIRD????
Delay hoarder!!!
hehe
Nah, I couldn’t do that until they become readily available again. It’s just one of those pedals that sounds so good, you gotta have it…and then you remember you already have it. hehe
LOL. I’m only kidding.
Which do you think would be better? Having two Replicas or one Replica and a Timeline?
Definitely a Replica and a Timeline. Two Replica’s is cool, but you still don’t get modulation, reverse delay, or presets. A Replica and a Timeline might be pretty stellar!!
Awesome! Now I just have to wait for them to make more…
Hopefully soon!
Karl,
Just finished watching the YouTube demos of the Timeline. Unreal! I’ve had a Nova almost since they first came out and have always been happy with it…until today!
Since you’ve also tried the TimeFactor out, I thought I would ask if the type of patches you demo’ed, specifically the more ethereal, ambient stuff (but also the trippy decays, etc.) are possible with the TimeFactor. I’m really close to pulling the trigger on the Timeline, but feel like I should look into the TimeFactor also due to size and power differences (and the fact that Damage Control seems like it could go out of business at any time).
Also, with the Timeline is there expression pedal capabilities via midi? Is the midi clock function one that you’ve tried (I often play to a click so when setting up standard patches, exact BPM sync is very important to me)?
Thanks, I’ve really enjoyed reading your site!
Blessings,
- Brendan
Hi guys,
I have a timeline and a FCB1010 controller.
I know how I can set up midi patches with the controller but I want to take it to the next level.
I use mainstage 2 for my live work and I was wondering how you can program program changes so when I switch a songpatch in Mainstage with my fcb 1010, maistage sends a program change to the timeline for the correct patch.
Can it be done??
grtz
Karel
Hey, Karel. I’m pretty sure that can be done. You’d have to get a midi router so that you could double your send signals. But after that, as long as the program change message from Mainstage is on midi channel 1, it should change the Timeline’s patch as well. If it’s not on midi channel 1, you might have to look into some midi router that will actually change midi channels on the route going to the Timeline.
Hope that helps! Cheers!
Hey fantastic sound.
Love the fact that this is has midi.
But is that Rocktron Midi Mate dedicated to that pedal alone?
I love the ability to have presets, but that is a lot of pedal board for one pedal.
Great demo!
Lee
Thanks for the kind words.
However, yes, that Midi Mate is just for the Timeline. Takes up tons of pedalboard space. However, the Timeline will change presets just fine with a smaller midi pedal, like the Tech 21 Midi Mouse. The only reason I went with the huge Midi Mate, is that I really liked the ability to name the patches. So I just deal with the immense hugeness. lol
I’m looking all over the place for this pedal online and they say it is discontinued! Sadness!
hey karl
how are you powering the timeline? i have a pedalpower 2 and i don’t know if i should just get a power strip and plug it into the courtesy jack of the pedal power 2 so as to power this voltage glutten.
i’m bad with electronics, so i don’t really know what is good and bad for my tone electical wise
what do you suggest?
thanks
Leeus–Check Damage Control’s facebook page. They should be manufacturing some more, but it has been slow going. But all the updates usually come on that page if there is any.
Anonymous–The Timeline draws 2 amps of power, almost like an amplifier. And the courtesy outlet of the PP2 says not to plug amps into it. So, it might be okay, but I’ve never risked it. I use a separate power conditioner for my Timelines. Might be excessive, but it works for me. Just a regular surge protector should be fine, too. Cheers!
hello, i am the poster formerly known as “anonymous”
forgot to put a name in
anyways, karl, could you tell me a good power conditioner? i am under the understanding that a good one has to have isolated outlets to stop cross talk. yet i don’t know which ones are of this type of quality. any suggestions?
haha That’s rad.
I’m using the Furman Power Factor Pro. Really does a good job of lowering the noise floor, for all my gear. However, it does not have isolated outputs. The only one I know of that has truly isolated outputs is the Furman IT-20; but it’s $1200 and 85 pounds. Yikes. Eventually, you’re right…I think isolated outputs is the way to go. I just can’t swing that yet! haha And the Power Factor Pro seems to do a decent job.
How does that work, Karl? You plug that in, then plug your amp and board into it?
Yep! Actually for me, I mounted it on my board. So I’ve got my amp power running to it on the board, and then my PP2 and all my AC powered pedals running out of its different outlets. Does a really good job.
Did you hear the clips of the new Strymon delay pedal? http://www.strymon.net/news/
Sweet mercy, yes! And I haven’t been able to think of much else since. lol
Karl … thanks for your great indepth review! You should really be getting commission on all the Timeline sales you’re generating.
I’m waiting for the next batch myself.
Do you know if it’s possible to setup the tap tempo to be controlled by the MidiMate?
Thanks, Mark! And I have not set up the Midi Mate to do tap tempo, but according to the manual, it is possible. I think you just lose some of the patch-changing functionality.
The Timelines are back in stock now … just ordered one! Merry Christmas too me!
Mark, I just saw that and was just about to post the PSA here! But I don’t need to now. Thanks, brother! There’s gonna be some really happy guitarists out there!
hey man, i’m a delay nut, let me tell you – this has to be the most incredible sounding delay i’ve heard thanks to your demos. when they first came out i was really impressed with the initials demos. now that i’ve seen it paired up with the midi mate, wow, what a combo for a gigging guitarist.
but that sound, nothing sounds like the timeline, its pure heaven in my mind. i’ve been toying with the timefactor but its just not full enough in the mix, i’m a big modulation delay kind of guy and i think the timefactor doesn’t do a great job in that area. the nova delay is definately close to the timeline but i’d say at this point for feel and tone and prstineness …according to your demos and what i like personally, the timeline is going to be bought by me.
Jay, I totally agree. The Timeline is in a class that only $1K+ rackmount delays may be in. The T-Rex Replica is close, but it doesn’t have modulation or presets. I think you’re going to absolutely love it!
And now that they have them back in stock, you actually ‘can’ love it! hehe Cheers, bro!
Hey this is jay again, i read on the rocktron midi mate that you can plug an exp pedal say a Roland ev5 straight into it on the back, can you set up something to control a parameter in real time on the timeline using this feature through the rocktron?
As far as I now, that’s correct. I’ve yet to try it, but according to the manuals, it should work.
Love the review and demo of this pedal. In fact, I was inspired by it so much I decided to sell my DL4 and upgrade to the Timeline and the Midi Mate to boot.
I am having some problems getting the Midi Mate setup though. After reading through the manual most everything makes sense but I cannot seem to figure out how to store settings from my Timeline into the Midi Mate.
Have any suggestions? What is the order you go about to assign presets to the Midi Mate? Thanks!
Hey Drew, congrats on the Timeline! Actually, the Timeline makes it so easy to store settings, that it actually becomes more difficult because you think it can’t be that easy. hehe
First, make sure your Midi Mate is set to channel 1. Hit 2nd, then ‘5′ until it scrolls ‘Midi Channels’, and then make sure it is on ‘1′. Then hit ‘2nd’ again. Then, get a sound you like out of the Timeline. Now push down the middle knob on the Timeline. Now hit the number on the Midi Mate where you want the setting to be saved. And there ya go! They’re now saved under that number.
Hope that helps! Cheers!
Wow. So seriously you totally saved my butt. I had to lead worship and was able to dial in my sounds just in time thanks to the advice you gave. And I don’t think my delay tone has ever been so spectacular! Simply awesome.
I had one more question for ya. I have been trying to nail down that killer swell sound you had in your demo video. Tried and tried but had no luck for tonight’s worship set. By any chance do you happen know what the settings for that sound was?
Thanks again Karl!
Right on! I’m stoked you got it working.
As for the swell settings, it’s something like:
Type: Long
Time: 1-2 o’clock
Repeats: 4-5 o’clock
Mix: 12-1 o’clock
Mod depth: 2 o’clock
Mod speed: 7-8 o’clock
Filter: 11 o’clock
Smear: 3-4 o’clock
Hey Karl,
you may not remember me, but you played a gig with Jeff Johnson @ Calvary Chapel San Jacinto back in March of this year. I just have to say that thanks to your website and demos of the timeline, I am convinced that this is the end of journey that I have had for sometime. I maybe won’t get as technical as you have gone with it, but literally every demo I have listened to of this pedal, leaves me in awe of the quality of tone. So just for the record when my wife says “You spent how much for a pedal?” I will say in one brief word…’Karl’, and walk away.
Thanks for the pursuit of sweet tone!
Beau
Hey Beau! Ya, I totally remember. Nice to talk with you again! Man, I hate to continue to be a bad influence, lol, but I must say that you’ll love the Timeline!
How’s everything going with the tone journey, and with Calvary San Jacinto?
Cheers, brother!
Thanks Karl, everything is well. I have learned to be wise now in my decision making of purchasing new gear…:) Yeah, right!
I thought for a while there that it was more about using 20 effects at once to achieve the sweet tone I keep looking for, but now have realized that I really want quality and not quantitiy.
Things are good at church, and the Lord in the contiued focal point.
Thanks for taking the time to invest so much of your passion for great tone to encourage the rest of us,
Beau
Right on, Beau. Great to hear that everything is going so well! And I love what you said about quality over quantity. Awesome stuff.
…And especially if you have a huge quantity of quality stuff!
hehehe Just kidding.
This is a great site. Tons of info for everyone. Thanks for all this effort. Was looking for your “How to” video on setting the Timeline Can you give me the link
Thanks for the kind words, and it’s great to have you here! I don’t have a ‘how to’ video per se for setting the Timeline, but it is the main demo delay for this post:
http://guitarforworship.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/using-delay-in-modern-music/
Hopefully that will cover what you’re looking for. If not, feel free to ask me any questions you like! Have a great day!
Cheers,
Karl
Karl, i just saw 2 of your vids after reading your very entertaining article: “…Tone is in your hands?” i’m wondering if u could give time approximations ( settings ) for what u call “dotted eigths”. U mentioned this near the end of your Damage Control demo vid. i’ve heard Lincoln Brewster and of course, Edge use similar settings which for me have been most closely approximated using dual delays. i also saw a title regarding something about “…delay and everything will be okay”. That’s probably me – lol. i plan on watching that next. i’m also big on swells and the textural stuff that Desperation Band and Hillsong United pulloff. Keep doing what u do brother.
PraySing Him!
david
A dotted note is the value of the not plus a half for example, if an eighth note has a value of 1/2 a beat then the value of a dotted eighth note will be 3/4 of a beat. Adding the extra half to the original value allows for the delayed notes to fall between beats instead of on the beats giving a somewhat “rhythmic” sound to the delayed passages.
David Josiah–sweet! I agree…delay just makes everything that much better! haha As for dotted eighths, Sam just gave a great description. And this post has some videos of them:
http://guitarforworship.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/using-delay-in-modern-music/
I use them in the first 3 sections, but mostly in the third.
Hope that helps, and let me know if it doesn’t…I’ll try to explain it better!
Cheers!
Sam–well done, my friend!
Karl,
I think I finally scored a timeline off of a member at TGP site. Now I will have that Timeline/Replica dual delay going! I’m so excited. I was just here the listen to your demos again and couldn’t resist leaving a comment. hehe.
Right on!! So stoked for you! Can’t wait to hear how the Replica/Timeline combo works out!!